Photographed by Nina Westervelt
What does punk mean to you?
Amelia Meath: So many things, but I think the actuality of punk is just being and doing what you wish to be.
Nick Sanborn: Yes. Following yourself without any concern for what anyone else is doing.
AM: I believe that there is a way to carry the light of humanity through your fucking punk-ass vibe. Just being kind to other people, but at the same time being like, “Fuck it. I’m just going to be my truest self.“
NS: Yeah, subverting a norm in a way that opens a door for someone else to discover themselves, too.
NS: I’m just saying! Is there anything more punk than drag?
AM: No, nothing.
I was just reading an interview between RuPaul and Dolly Parton, and he said the most punk thing you can do is drag.AM: That’s the truth. It’s the most beautiful thing. RuPaul’s the OG punk.
How do you introduce punk into your own life and music?
AM: Here’s the thing. Punk is a lifestyle and a personal mentality. Even though I’m not immediately identified as punk all the time, I am because I do what I wish to do and I move through life in the way that I wish to.
NS: I think constantly trying to remember that within you is this actual source of the true way of being and not allowing what anyone else is doing to cloud that reality. I think if you can constantly be aware of that and constantly be listening to your heart, that’s the most punk thing you could do.
AM: The more that I think about punk in terms of the hippie movement, the more I believe that punk is the realest of the hippie movement in a lot of ways. You know, “Fuck you! I’m gonna do what I wish to. I’m gonna be who I want to be.” They really hold hands in that way.
NS: I think it’s almost a shame that punk style in the mainstream has been relegated to this one set of things.