If there was every any doubt that Seth Meyers has become one of the most potent critics in the Trump era, then check out his dizzying and triumphant interview from last night with the Trump Whisperer herself, Kellyanne Conway. Meyers, who has found his voice as the host of Late Night by frequently mocking the president-elect, has always tempered his Trump-bashing with an air of seriousness and genuine concern. That tricky balance was on full display as he grilled Conway on the upcoming administration’s many absurdities and hypocrisies, while still managing a respectful and, at times, funny demeanor. He has rarely been this locked in.
Meyers opened the interview by congratulating Conway on being the first woman to ever successfully run a presidential campaign and, then, in a reference to the #NotMyPresident hashtag, assuring Conway that he does see Donald Trump as his soon-to-be president. “He’s my president so much it’s keeping me up at night,” he joked.
That’s when Meyers began the interview for real, asking Conway about the just-breaking news that a dossier had leaked to the press that Donald Trump was compromised by the Russian government, because of some incriminating information they had about him. When she insisted that Trump had not been briefed by intelligence on the report, Meyers contradicted her directly with the truth, reminding her that he, in fact, had.
“Nobody has sourced it. They’re all unnamed, unspoken sources in the story, and it says it was based on a Russian investigator, to begin with,” she insisted.
“I think it was based on an MI6 British investigator,” Meyers said, correctly.
The interview reached a high point when Meyers brought up Trump’s response to the Russian hacking. “But shouldn’t we care if the Russians tried to interfere?” Meyers asked. “Whether it informed the election or not. I sometimes fear that the president-elect has no curiosity as to the amount they tried.”
“That is completely false,” Conway said. “He has enormous curiosity. I’m there every day with him. He has a number of different meetings every day — briefings and otherwise. He was curious enough to figure out America. He knew America when many other Republicans did not.”
“That’s a pivot right there, Kellyanne,” Meyers said, to the delight of the audience. “And by the way, no one does it better,” he added.
In that moment, Meyers had done what so many reporters before him had failed to, which is directly call out Conway for her role in the Trump administration, which is to distort the truth with a steady drip of false promises and misinformation. Watch the entire exchange above.